benedict will not be voting. this is a good college. it will continue. it will be in harmony with the two popes that elevated these men. so i don't think there's any question about that or any kind of big surprise that may come out when we see the white smoke. i think it's frankly pretty exciting. >> george weigel, last one. some controversies during this pope's reign. particularly the whole sexual abuse thing which came crashing down on the catholic church. has it healed in your judgment? >> there are certainly places in the church where it hasn't healed yet. ireland comes to mind. certainly parts of our own country where we're still dealing with the afterburn of abuse committed 20, 30, 40 years ago. but this pope was, i think, quite vigorous in his attempts to root out of the church this wickedness. and i am completely confident that his successor will continue to do that. >> thank you very much, both of you. we appreciate it. george weigel and cathy ruse. >>> investors seem bullish right now but are business leaders just as optimistic? that's next up.